half of them get a decent education. the rest not so good. that is a huge tragedy. i think recognizing the problem, and people like yourself is a leader in that. this is not acceptable. this is bad for everybody. that is starting to happen. several things are happening to make it better. that is very positive. >> are you convinced we have the will to do what is necessary? the will. >> the more people the recognize the problem, then they say we can do something about it. then things will happen. i think we are between phase one and phase two. teach for america, many examples like national mentoring. the programs that are starting to make a difference. people recognize it works. people want to invest. they want to invest in companies that are doing well. if they say this is a waste. it is hopeless. you have to take away the hopelessness and say we can make it better. there is examples in massachusetts with these charter schools. we have some district schools. they are now the top of the state. these things work. >> not all of the results is as good. >> some of the ear